Bringing Joy Through Stories: Judie and Sam

Judie’s life was full of ups and downs as a military wife, providing her with opportunities to go to new places and meet people outside of her comfort zone. Living in Montgomery during a time of segregation, and fleeing dangerous situations during wartime were some of her challenges, while visits to the White House to assist the First Lady were some highlights. However, the focus is not on Judie’s life, but rather on how she became a storyteller, using her experiences as material to bring joy, inspiration, and the message that God is in control to others. After their conversation, Sam, a high schooler set to graduate in May with aspirations of becoming a filmmaker, was inspired to name the story that Judie not only wrote, but lived.

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Sherri [00:00:09] Have you ever wish you could know what the future held before you got there? What if you were given the gift of knowledge before you even began your journey? Now, I’ve been thinking about that because I made a lot of stupid mistakes when I was younger. And I wish I had someone to say, “Don’t go down that road. But on this one.” I’m Sherri and welcome to From the Eyes of Wisdom, where we are pairing an experienced elder from Crista Senior Living with a passionate Kings High School student ready to launch into the world. And while these conversations won’t tell the future exactly, they did reveal a lot we weren’t expecting about how to live life well. Are you ready? I can’t wait for you to hear this.

Sherri [00:00:59] Back again with another episode. So excited to have Judy here and Sam. Hello. And we are going to talk about storytelling and about the exciting life that you have led Judy, and all the stories that you have from that and how you tell those stories and how you determine whether a story is, you know, because so much happens, how do you determine whether a story is, for lack of better terminology, worth telling, you know, or was that just something I went through? I don’t need to tell everybody that. Or you look at something and say, “Hey, this is a good story. And I think people would benefit from it.” Like, how do you determine that? We’re going to talk about that. Let’s talk with Sam first, though, Sam. Tell me, you’re a senior?

Sam [00:01:39] I am.

Sherri [00:01:41] Pick the college yet?

Sam [00:01:42] No, but close.

Sherri [00:01:44] Okay. What are we looking at?

Sam [00:01:46] We’re looking at University of Washington, primarily.

Sherri [00:01:49] Okay.

Sam [00:01:49] Recently got deferred from USC.

Sherri [00:01:52] Okay.

Sam [00:01:52] And UW is the the other one that I would like to go to.

Sherri [00:01:57] What are you looking to study?

Sam [00:01:59] I’m looking to major in psychology, but I don’t know that I’m going to necessarily graduate in that. It’s kind of a jumping off point for me.

Sherri [00:02:05] Okay. What about storytelling? What is your passion there?

Sam [00:02:09] Well, I would say. My brother, when I was younger, really got into movies and directing. And as brothers, do you kind of copy them? So I kind of watched his passion and grew a similar one. And I got really into movies, and later I got more into some books, classics and stuff like that.

Sherri [00:02:29] Yeah.

Sam [00:02:30] And then I realized, like, there’s just something I like about about movies and books and maybe random Wikipedia articles, history, where it all kind of tells those people stories. I’d like to see that.

Sherri [00:02:40] Okay, Judy, I read some of your transcript from your pre-interview. My goodness. The life.

Judy [00:02:49] You did?

Sherri [00:02:49] Moving and the all of that. I can’t wait to talk about it. So you’re from Michigan?

Judy [00:02:54] I am from Michigan.

Sherri [00:02:56] What part?

Judy [00:02:57] I am from Pontiac.

Sherri [00:02:58] Pontiac, Michigan.

Judy [00:03:00] Where they make Pontiac automobiles.

Sherri [00:03:02] Okay. Yes. All right. So it seems like the entry to your adventure, so to speak, is the meeting and marrying of your husband.

Judy [00:03:14] Exactly.

Sherri [00:03:15] So that that’s what kind of…This was not the life you were going to lead on your own necessarily?

Judy [00:03:19] Absolutely not.

Sherri [00:03:20] Okay. Tell me how you met and how you decided, okay, this is my husband?

Judy [00:03:27] Well, I dated a lot of boys in high school.

Sherri [00:03:30] Well, all right, Judy. Okay.

Judy [00:03:33] And I dated quite a bit in college, too, and I didn’t meet my love Gary…

Sherri [00:03:45] Mm hmm.

Judy [00:03:46] In fact, I had seen him on campus, but nobody knew who he was and I kept inquiring.

Sherri [00:03:54] Attractive guy, I guess.

Judy [00:03:55] Very attractive.

Sherri [00:03:56] Okay. Okay.

Judy [00:03:57] But I went to fraternity parties. Didn’t see him there in the student union. Didn’t see him there. And all of a sudden, one day I had my girlfriend from high school, lived in my dormitory. So we were going home for Thanksgiving vacation. So I rode with she and her boyfriend. But I never cared for her boyfriend, and she had been wanting me to go out on this blind date with this Gary.

Sherri [00:04:31] Okay.

Judy [00:04:32] So we get in the car to go home, and they’re sad. Gary. I didn’t like her boyfriend.

Sherri [00:04:43] Yeah.

Judy [00:04:44] So I always kept refusing. So when I got in that car and saw him, this guy that I’d been eyeing for two years on campus, I just couldn’t. So they dropped me off and I was on the phone 10 minutes later to share. Listen, I want to go out with this guy.

Sherri [00:05:08] Trying to get the digits okay, I got you.

Judy [00:05:09] So, anyway, I guess the rest is history.

Sherri [00:05:14] How long did you date before engaged?

Judy [00:05:19] I met him in December, and by May/June, we had gone over to Lake Michigan with our books to study.

Sherri [00:05:32] Uh huh.

Judy [00:05:32] And we were falling in love. And he just said….He asked me and I said, “Yes.”

Sherri [00:05:41] Okay. So wait a minute, December-January. About six months.

Judy [00:05:46] About six.

Sherri [00:05:47] Six months. Okay.

Judy [00:05:48] And then, of course, graduation from college. And then back then, in 1961, you had to have your military obligation or be drafted.

Sherri [00:06:00] Oh, okay.

Judy [00:06:01] The draft. Yeah. So he knew as an officer, I mean, he could go in for three months and become an officer.

Sherri [00:06:07] Because he went to college? Okay.

Judy [00:06:10] As a college graduate.

Sherri [00:06:11] Right.

Judy [00:06:12] So based on that.

Sherri [00:06:13] Mm hmm.

Judy [00:06:14] We were married in September.

Sherri [00:06:17] Okay.

Judy [00:06:18] And off we went.

Sherri [00:06:21] Okay. So you’re married now? He’s in the service.

Judy [00:06:25] Where we went to San Antonio for training.

Sherri [00:06:27] What’s the first thing that’s different?

Judy [00:06:30] Everything. Everything.

Sherri [00:06:33] Okay.

Judy [00:06:33] And, you know, then he was off in training, and I knew nobody. We found an apartment. We opened up our checking account, and then he left.

Sherri [00:06:44] And you’re by yourself essentially, in San Antonio?

Judy [00:06:47] I’m by myself. And I was like. Oh, my word. I can’t call my parents and tell them I’m homesick. I mean, I didn’t realize, you know, that he was going to be pushed into training and I wasn’t going to see him. And I didn’t really know anybody and so that was…

Sherri [00:07:09] That’s tough.

Judy [00:07:10] Huge thing. So there was another I met a military wife whose husband was enlisted.

Sherri [00:07:17] Mm hmm.

Judy [00:07:18] And she had a small child and she just kind of took me in and said, “Honey, it’s going to be okay.” So I could see that as a God thing that somebody came.

Sherri [00:07:33] How long were you in San Antonio?

Judy [00:07:34] Well, for three months.

Sherri [00:07:36] Three months.

Judy [00:07:36] Then he got his commission, and he was a second lieutenant in the Air Force.

Sherri [00:07:41] Okay.

Judy [00:07:41] And then we went to Amarillo, Texas, which is right up the middle part of the state. And then after that, our first assignment.

Sherri [00:07:53] Okay.

Judy [00:07:54] Mobile, Alabama.

Sherri [00:07:56] Now, let me ask you, Sam had to have you moved anywhere you were born and raised here or?

Sam [00:08:01] I was born in Missouri and lived there till I was seven. And then I moved to Snoqualmie and then to Edmonds. I’ve been to Mobile, Alabama, and take a history class. And then 1963 in Mobile, Alabama. There are some things going on, I can imagine.

Judy [00:08:16] Exactly. And I thought. I had moved to a different country.

Sherri [00:08:21] Can you give us a little bit of what you were experiencing?

Judy [00:08:23] Yeah. Black and white.

Sherri [00:08:28] Yeah

Judy [00:08:29] Segregation everywhere. They were not allowed.

Sherri [00:08:33] To eat in the same restaurant?

Judy [00:08:35] In the same restaurant, or even get gas and just drinking fountains. Everything was colored and white. It was an eye opener in Mobile, Alabama.

Sherri [00:08:47] What do you think about that Sam? Because it’s very difficult to think about that in this current culture. So I’m wondering what your thoughts are on that.

Sam [00:08:55] Well, I think about like even my parents, you know, my dad’s an immigrant from Korea. My mom is born and raised in the U.S. her entire life. I grew up in a very white neighborhood and stuff like that. And her kind of getting exposure to other cultures was just a shock for her to even. And that’s to a much lesser extent, because she wasn’t around during the civil rights movement. I’ve kind of seen through her it’s like it’s kind of like when you’re a kid versus when you you grow up when you’re a kid, everybody’s the same, you know, It’s all the same. And then you realize, like, there are these horrible things happening and they’re like people, you know, create this division and like, it’s really nauseating. I feel like, yeah. And it’s hard to believe and it was hard for my mom to believe. I know they got like, shooed away from like an amusement park one time because they’re an interracial couple in southern Missouri and this is only 20 years ago. So yeah, it’s just stuff like that that really takes you by surprise for somebody who’s never had exposure to it. It would be shocking.

Sherri [00:10:00] Did you and your husband talk about it like, Whoa, what is this?

Judy [00:10:03] Oh, yeah. It was beyond what we had ever experienced.

Sherri [00:10:07] Sure.

Judy [00:10:08] I was just. Well, I felt like I was in a foreign country.

Sherri [00:10:13] Yeah. Isn’t that amazing? Wow.

Judy [00:10:15] It was like. Wow. And then our first child was born there.

Sherri [00:10:21] Okay.

Judy [00:10:21] And we had become friends of a Mobilian woman.

Sherri [00:10:27] Okay.

Judy [00:10:28] Who had black help in her home.

Sherri [00:10:33] Yeah

Judy [00:10:34] And so when Laurie was born, that was her first babysitter. I took her to Mrs. Sellars.

Sherri [00:10:44] Okay.

Judy [00:10:45] And Mary, The maid.

Sherri [00:10:47] The maid. Okay.

Judy [00:10:48] Cared for my daughter.

Sherri [00:10:50] Okay.

Judy [00:10:51] And it was the sweetest. That was the sweetest thing. But she was still. I mean, the black people were the servants.

Sherri [00:11:01] Yeah. So there was no equality. They are not servants. It’s not even employee. It’s servant. Like you’re not.

Judy [00:11:07] Yes.

Sherri [00:11:07] You serve? Yeah. Okay. Did you feel like a sting every time you saw that sign?

Judy [00:11:13] Yeah.

Sherri [00:11:13] You did? Every time for three years. It was always like, Oh, that’s not.

Judy [00:11:16] This is not right.

Sherri [00:11:18] Okay. All right. So you were there three years, and then what?

Judy [00:11:23] We had a chance. My husband made a four year commitment. Just before the four years were up. The Air Force dangled a little carrot and said, “How would you like to go overseas?”

Sherri [00:11:36] Uh huh.

Judy [00:11:37] And we prayed about it for maybe one day and said, “Yeah.”

Sherri [00:11:42] So the chance to go travel outside of the country. Live out of the country. Early twenties. That’s appealing, right? Okay.

Judy [00:11:51] So anyway.

Sherri [00:11:53] Where did you go?

Judy [00:11:53] Tripoli, Libya. North Africa.

Sam [00:12:01] Not the ideal vacation. Yeah?

Sherri [00:12:05] Okay, so, just kind of give me cause it’s the same thing like you drop in Mobile, Alabama. It’s like where in the world am I? What is this? Same thing. You land in Tripoli. What are you seeing the first time?

Judy [00:12:19] I arrive in Tripoli, Libya North Africa. It was 120 degrees.

Sherri [00:12:27] So that’s the first thing you notice is man, is it hot.

Judy [00:12:31] Man is it hot.

Sherri [00:12:32] And then what else are you noticing?

Judy [00:12:34] And all you could see were Arabs.

Sherri [00:12:37] Okay.

Judy [00:12:39] The women were veiled and camels and donkey carts. And this is where I was going to live.

Sam [00:12:50] And that’s just a little different from Michigan.

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Sam [00:13:41] I have a question. So I know Mobile, Alabama, and Tripoli are two. There are two very like a conservative cultures, but in very different ways. What is the feeling you could describe being in Tripoli like for you? What was that like?

Judy [00:14:01] You know what? I was sad for those women and, you know, it was 98% illiterate, so they had no chance of their they loved their children, but there was no schooling or anything. And they were worth less than the animals.

Sherri [00:14:21] The women?

Judy [00:14:22] Yeah. Yeah. And the garbage guy would come with his donkey cart and pick up our garbage and take it down to the end of the street in the children would eat off our garbage. I was very sad to see the poverty. So I used to pack nice things on the top or even clothing like my husband’s shoes or something. But I tell you, the minute the garbage man picked that up, if there any other people were there, there were fighting.

Sherri [00:15:03] Would take stuff? Yeah.

Judy [00:15:05] And I thought, Here I am living, you know, I didn’t have good water. I didn’t have anything. It had to be brought from the base. But they were so poor.

Sherri [00:15:20] Hmm.

Judy [00:15:21] And it was a very, that was a very sad thing for me.

Sherri [00:15:26] So you’re there. How long?

Judy [00:15:29] I was there almost three years, It was a three year assignment.

Sherri [00:15:32] Okay.

[00:15:33] But the big thing.

Sherri [00:15:35] Uh huh.

Judy [00:15:35] That’s what I call my faith story.

Sherri [00:15:37] Okay.

Judy [00:15:39] All of a sudden, we had been without electricity for five days. So that means the water was on top. Assistance system?

Sherri [00:15:54] Yeah. Yeah.

Judy [00:15:55] So when you used all of the water on it, you had no water.

Sherri [00:16:00] Okay.

Judy [00:16:01] So we had been without electricity for five days. Then it comes back on.

Sherri [00:16:06] Okay. All right.

Judy [00:16:07] Everything goes back to… Man, I get that washing machine going. I had to fill it. And then it would be automatically. So I hung everything on the line. There was a ring down where we parked our car. And so I ran out. I thought, Who is coming? And there was a sergeant standing there with his automobile, and he said. “Get in your house and pack your bags to leave immediately. I will be back in 20 minutes for you.” And I’m saying, “Where am I going?” So I went in and I said, “Laurie, we’re going on the vacation. You’ve got to help Mommy.” “Where are we going?” And so I got the suitcase, and she wanted to take all her stuffed animals and, “Oh, mommy, you know?”

Sherri [00:17:06] And are you panicked?

Judy [00:17:09] I’m thinking you know…Keep on. Keep on.

Sherri [00:17:15] Okay.

Judy [00:17:16] Okay. I packed maternity clothes because I’m seven months pregnant. I packed my husband’s military uniforms. He was truthful. He was back in 20 minutes.

Sherri [00:17:30] Okay.

Judy [00:17:31] But I got our shot records, our passport, and my Bible. Those were the last things I grabbed, and he came back and took us down to base.

Sherri [00:17:44] Okay.

Judy [00:17:45] And that was the start of the Arab Israeli war of 1967. So they brought all military personnel onto the base and my husband was base procurement officer. So he procured mattresses and three friends all had children. Stayed in his office.

Sherri [00:18:15] Okay.

Judy [00:18:15] And I optimistically thought that it’s going to blow over and we’re going to go back home.

Sherri [00:18:25] Yeah. Why wouldn’t you think that?

Judy [00:18:28] And then all of a sudden, they cut off our water supply.

Sherri [00:18:32] On the base?

Judy [00:18:34] Yeah, it was all totally off. And that we had, like, one washcloth to wash our children, and we seven children, wash their face, wash our hands and everything. And then. I just kept saying, “I’m going to stay, I don’t want to leave because where am I going to go?” But we had no choice. So they brought in planes from wherever they could get them, and they mass evacuated thousands of us.

Sherri [00:19:10] Your husband went too?

Judy [00:19:12] Oh, no. Our husband stayed. So all of us left our husbands. Our home. All our belongings and we fled.

Sherri [00:19:26] You seven months pregnant with a three year old. What is that like saying goodbye to your husband?

Judy [00:19:34] Oh, it was. It was so hard. And he just said, “Promise me you will go to your mother.” And I’m saying, “No, I’m going to stay in Europe and I’ll come back.” Very optimistic. I just kept thinking it’s going to blow over. The fighting is a long ways from where we were living because we were living in the Arab nation, we were in harms way. So anyway. But my three friends. Just so happened, God put us together and we were on this C-130. Like you saw the people hanging on that plane.

Sherri [00:20:21] In Afghanistan?

Judy [00:20:21] In Afghanistan. When I saw that, I wept because that’s the plane I left Libya on.

Sherri [00:20:28] Yeah.

Judy [00:20:29] Anyway, so we got to Spain, and there was a base there that had kind of been like what they call it in mothballs. They weren’t using, so they opened it up. So we were in barracks. And that story is just beyond… We were there all just military wives.

Sherri [00:20:55] And your kids?

Judy [00:20:56] And our kids. And then we were there probably 24 hours. And then we were notified that we would be leaving because they had more people coming in to take our place. So we found out, and I think the God thing was my three friends and four of us with all seven children between us. We left Libya together. We lived in Spain together, and we all left on the same plane for New York.

Sherri [00:21:31] Oh, gosh.

Sam [00:21:32] I have a question. You know, a lot of my friends are like 19-20 and you’re like 24 or something like that here. And in my mind, you know, 20 to 25, you’re basically still in high school. Yeah, I know a lot of my friends in college, they’re still kids. But you hear, you know, you’ve seen racial discrimination, you know, discrimination based on sex. You’ve had to evacuate your house. You’re coming up on your second kid. You know, you’ve seen some horrible things and all, just a lot of things in general. Do you feel like you really I mean, you must have really had to grow up really fast?

Judy [00:22:10] Oh, I did. And those things were all life experiences that made me who I am today. You know, I think, you know, you don’t go through things like that without…And you know, Sam, I’ve written that story, so I’d love for you to read it. I mean, from Monday to Friday. I mean, that story because I have Scripture on every day God has given me.

Sherri [00:22:36] What made you say, I got to write this down?

Judy [00:22:38] I want my children and my grandchildren to understand a little bit.

Sherri [00:22:42] Mm hmm.

Judy [00:22:43] I mean, about what has happened, I mean, what happened to me. At each of those places, I grew stronger in my faith. My faith became real.

Sherri [00:22:57] It would have to.

Judy [00:22:58] So then Gary came home.

Sherri [00:23:00] Uh huh.

Judy [00:23:01] Six months later.

Sherri [00:23:03] How many times did you move overall?

Judy [00:23:05] Oh, my word.

Sherri [00:23:07] Well, more than ten?

Judy [00:23:08] Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So we lived in. I’ll just name them and then…From Southern California, then we went to Ohio.

Sherri [00:23:19] Uh huh.

Judy [00:23:20] And from Ohio. Then we came out here from 76 to 79.

Sherri [00:23:24] Washington right?

Judy [00:23:25] Washington. He was working on the president’s airplane and at Boeing. And he was always doing secrets stuff I don’t know what he did.

Sherri [00:23:33] Yeah.

Judy [00:23:34] And then we went to DC. To DC, and he was at the Pentagon.

Sherri [00:23:39] Okay. Wow.

Judy [00:23:40] I’ve got two wonderful stories there, too. One, I helped dress Christmas cards for Rosalynn Carter.

Sherri [00:23:48] Okay. Wow.

Judy [00:23:50] And we just. I did it, but I didn’t know I was going to be invited to the White House for tea with ropes down and everything.

Sherri [00:23:58] As a thank you?

Judy [00:23:59] As a thank you. So that came my way. So I’ve told you all these hard things. Yeah, I’ve had some wonderful things with my husband’s career. And then the inaugural of Reagan.

Sherri [00:24:15] Reagan. Okay. Yeah.

Judy [00:24:18] Wow. What a night that was. Znd we because of that, you know, he was there and he was in the inaugural parade and he was everything. But then we were invited to the inaugural ball at the Kennedy Center. And what we had to do is just mingle. Just be nice.

Sherri [00:24:40] So you’re saying, look, this is that’s why I keep using the phrase a life well lived with God. Because, again, like when we look at someone like David or Joseph or Daniel, there are these peaks and they’re these valleys, but the consistency that I see there that I hear in all of your stories is God’s faithfulness.

Judy [00:25:04] Exactly.

Sherri [00:25:05] So He hasn’t promised us that there’s not going to be that valley. He hasn’t promised us we’re not going to have to gather all our things up in 20 minutes and head to the base and then leave the base and get it. He doesn’t say that’s not going to happen. What He says is, “I’m with you.” Did you feel that all the time? Like, “He’s with me.” Did you gradually learn to just feel His presence and just trust that He’s there with you?

Judy [00:25:26] Well, you know, because of those two experiences, I grew up in my faith. Huge.

Sherri [00:25:35] And quick.

Judy [00:25:35] Quick.

Sherri [00:25:35] Yeah.

Judy [00:25:36] And so then when these things came along. More at the end of my husband’s career. And to me that was like, thank you God.

Sherri [00:25:47] Like a hug. God hugging you.

Judy [00:25:51] It was just such a magical night.

Sherri [00:25:55] At the inaugural ball?

Judy [00:25:56] At the inaugural ball. When they played the presidents. Dum dum dum…And they came as close as you are sitting to me. So thank you, Lord for this wonderful, wonderful experience. So.

Sherri [00:26:18] What do you think, Sam?

Sam [00:26:20] I mean, that’s it seems like after all you had gone through, it’s like, you know, you could use a little White House ball to make up for it.

Sherri [00:26:29] God is good.

Judy [00:26:30] God is good all the time. He is good.

Sherri [00:26:32] Again. It is a life well lived with God. He does not promise that there aren’t any obstacles. What He promises is His presence and His faithfulness. And when you get to a certain point, when you’re at a place where you can see these things on your journey and you’re beginning a journey, I think it’s important for someone to say, “He’s faithful every time.”

Judy [00:26:55] Faithful.

Sherri [00:26:55] Now, you may again, you may be in Spain not knowing where you’re going, but He’s faithful every time because you’re going to have to go through maybe not that, but you’re going to have to go through certain things where it’s like, what is going on? And that’s how your faith grows, right? How else would your faith grow?

Judy [00:27:11] Exactly.

Sherri [00:27:12] How else would your faith?

Judy [00:27:13] Well, you have to experience.

Sherri [00:27:14] You have to experience stuff.

Judy [00:27:15] Thing is, I experience the really hard things to then experience these things that just came my way.

Sherri [00:27:24] Made it sweeter?

Judy [00:27:26] God ordained it.

Sherri [00:27:32] Now, Sam. All right. Ready? First shot of Judy’s movie. Let’s see there. She’s giving you so much that you could start at the car with her and Gary in the backseat, right? I love film writing and script writing, so I’m going to get real geeky about this. You can start there, or you could start at the ball and then back up everything.

Sam [00:27:53] We can start the ball or we could start it, you know, somewhere along the journey, further along the journey. The end of your husband’s career, I’m thinking. You know, looking back on this life well lived, you know, maybe some some wise word? You know, some life lesson? And then we rewind all the way back to you rejecting somebody in ninth grade or something. Something silly, you know? You get a piece together. How do we get from this one to this one?

Sherri [00:28:20] How am I going to give you this card? And let me give you this pen. Judy, what I’m going to ask you to do is I’ve been asking everybody this. Sam needs one piece of advice. He’s going to be in college. He’s going to start dating. He’s going to do all this stuff. He’s going to start filmmaking. He’s going to start psychology. All of that stuff. Life. Start life, right? On his own. What is the one piece of advice you would give him that he could write on that card and have it all the time. And then now he’s 26 and he looks at it. Now he’s 46 and looks at it. What is the one piece of advice from your life you could give him?

Judy [00:29:00] First of all, you have to know that God is writing the script for you.

Sam [00:29:05] I love that.

Judy [00:29:06] Yes, He is writing this script and you’ve got to be faithful to walk that script, whatever it is, because I had no idea. When I was marrying my prince and going off in our ’57 Chevrolet that I would experience what I did. But those are the things that really make me who I am today.

Sam [00:29:35] I love that.

Judy [00:29:36] I am because I’m thankful for those things because I wouldn’t be who I am today.

Sam [00:29:43] You give thanks when times are hard and you give things and times are good.

Judy [00:29:45] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sherri [00:29:47] So, God’s writing the script.

Judy [00:29:50] God is writing the script for you.

Sherri [00:29:53] I love that. All right. Judy. Thank you. Sam. Thank you.

Sam [00:29:58] Of course.

Sherri [00:29:58] God bless you guys. Those of you listening or watching on YouTube. Thank you for joining us. We went on a ride today, and I loved every single second of it. Every single second. Thank you, Judy. And I’ll see everyone listening and everyone watching at the premiere of Judy’s movie directed by Sam. See you on the red carpet, baby.

Sherri [00:30:24] We hope you enjoyed the conversation and that you will join us next time. But before you go, I want to remind you this is being brought to you by Crista Senior living and Kings schools. You can find out more about these ministries at Crista.org. And please take a moment to leave us a review, by the way. We’d love to hear from you. And our final challenge to you is this. Look around you and find the eyes of wisdom in your own life. We’ll see you next time.